In need of a clutch and flywheel

[Kuruma]

Power(with a good tune) roughly 330-350hp

I will be running alot of autox's and also daily driving the car. Will be running r-comps as well.

So does anyone have any suggestions as to clutch and flywheel combo that will best fit my needs. Also while I am doing the job is there any items that need to get check/replaced/modified?

Thanks Craig

[mike.p]

i think i will be going with the act 6 puck sprung with hd pressure plate.... i had it in my last evo and it wasnt bad to dd and deff exceeds the power you want!

[koffebean00]

I'm running that setup^^^^ with the flywheel and i love it. Ran the same setup in my 1st car that all I did was drag race and it holds the power fine. ;)

[turbo dragon]

i have the same clutch it still doing good

[Hikaru]

Exedy Twin HD. Mods close thread ;)

[Kuruma]

Exedy Twin HD. Mods close thread ;)

Elaborate.

[Evolvedgti]

Exedy Twin HD. Mods close thread ;)

I agree, for road racing /autox can hold great torque. great to daily, doesnt have the lockout of the ACT. I ran one before my twin.

Exedy twin FTW

[koffebean00]

I agree, for road racing /autox can hold great torque. great to daily, doesnt have the lockout of the ACT. I ran one before my twin.

Exedy twin FTW

I've never had lockout issues with ACT on either of my Evos. I'm a noliftn fool!:D

[Evolvedgti]

I've never had lockout issues with ACT on either of my Evos. I'm a noliftn fool!:D

Some do some dont. I definitely did! TTP came out with something that was supposed to fix it. not sure if it worked

[em1toevo]

I'm quite happy with my 6 puck Stage 4 Competition Clutch.

[BlewByYouEvoVIII]

Craig, as others have said, exedy twin. Give me a call on Monday to discuss. You don't have to buy, but you should have the general info ;) I can give you that at least.

[Kuruma]

Thanks for the help everyone. What is this lock out everyone speaks of? What happens? I have more research to do, but this had been a good start. If anyone in the lawrenceville area has either of these clutchs I would love to meet up so I could feel the clutch pearl first hand. Also how noisy are these clutchs, I know stock throw out bearings can be loud, but what about aftermarket? Exedy clutch kit come with fly wheels, correct?

Thanks Craig

[TouringBubble]

Just my opinion, but there is no need for a twin plate clutch at that power level or for the type of racing you plan to do.

If you're not putting down 450+ tq to the wheels and aren't launching constantly, a twin is overkill on grip levels. Also, a twin setup is heavier which means more rotating mass, which means more power loss to the wheels.

For that power level and street/autocross use, a sprung 6-puck clutch is a great choice. The disc (and PP depending on manufacturer) is lighter and the sprung hub keeps it streetable. If you want something more biased for street use, go with a slightly more aggressive sprung full-face disc and a little heavier pressure plate.

I'm actually buying a Spec Stage 3 sprung 6-puck today to put in my own car (Spec is local to me and I can get a great deal).

[Chemwarrior]

I had the ACT MB7-HDSS with their Streetlite flywheel and had ZERO lockout issues. As you know Craig I also autocrossed mine. The Exedy twin is a good choice if you plan on increasing your power in the future. I had no plans on it so the ACT was perfect for me due to the cost and the power it could hold. The Exedy twin was just an overkill for my application.

[TouringBubble]

As far as the ACT lockout, basically the clutch doesn't engage fully, or fast enough, at higher RPM, which doesn't allow you to grab the next gear (imagine clutchless shifting/rev matching and screwing up). I've never experienced it in the ACT cars I've driven, but there are many accounts from owners.

the ACT input I have is that the basic "street" upgrade has an unusually stiff clutch. The kit basically uses the plate pressure to hold more tq rather than a more aggressive friction material. I'd recommend something a little more balanced which increases pressure and friction via the disc. Most other manufacturers do this.

Also, if you're shopping around, remember that a full-face disc will give you the best drivability ... they slip easier and chatter less. But, pedal weight will increase as tq capacity increases as full face discs are generally less aggressive. A "puck" clutch will be more difficult to slip and will wear faster with slipping (only notable if you're a really poor driver) and also be more prone to chatter with slipping, as they have a more aggressive friction material. But, they are lighter in physical mass and in the pedal feel.

Twin and triple clutches are a great clutch with basically no compromise, aside from weight. They have multiple friction discs, which basically double/triple the friction surface area. By doing this, they can run moderate pressure and semi aggressive friction material, but hold lots more torque and still maintain drivability. If you are really sold on a twin disc, consider something like the Spec Mini Twin, which will reduce rotating mass and still give most of the benefits of a multi-disc clutch. A better choice fro autocross IMO.

As far as the flywheel, don't go too light for a daily driver. A lightened steel flywheel, such as the Gruppe-S option is the only thing I could suggest. Having too light of a flywheel can cause idle and drivability issues as the engine can spin down faster than the idle stepper can correct for it, which can cause stalling and heavy idle oscillation. This is especially true with a lighter clutch assembly. My suggestion would be to get a spare stock flywheel and have it ground before the install. Then, use your stock one as a core, or as a spare. The stock flywheel is already light ... the Gruppe-S is only like .8 lb lighter.

[em1toevo]

I hope mine lasts a while. I try to be as smooth as possible while shifting. I have no chatter what so ever.

[TouringBubble]

They are great while shifting. It's the starts that will cause chatter. Excessive slip is generally the cause. If it's not chattering, then you're doing it right.

If I wasn't clear, puck clutches don't chatter by design, they are simply more prone to it given the aggressive material. Once you get used to how they grab, it's a non issue.

[freshandclean]

Just my opinion, but there is no need for a twin plate clutch at that power level or for the type of racing you plan to do.

If you're not putting down 450+ tq to the wheels and aren't launching constantly, a twin is overkill on grip levels. Also, a twin setup is heavier which means more rotating mass, which means more power loss to the wheels.

For that power level and street/autocross use, a sprung 6-puck clutch is a great choice. The disc (and PP depending on manufacturer) is lighter and the sprung hub keeps it streetable. If you want something more biased for street use, go with a slightly more aggressive sprung full-face disc and a little heavier pressure plate.

I'm actually buying a Spec Stage 3 sprung 6-puck today to put in my own car (Spec is local to me and I can get a great deal).


Very good choice! I'm currently running a SPEC stage 3 as well and love it. From the performance and price on the SPEC stage 3, you can't go wrong. I've sold more SPEC brand then anything else.

[TouringBubble]

Spec tends to have a love/hate following across the board ... kinda like Rota. People who like Spec love them, and those that don't absolutely refuse consideration. Apparently, there were failures of Spec clutches in the past (again, Rota) and the company has been on trial ever since. I have never seen this personally, but have heard references from Mitsu, Honda and VW guys.

[Cicio@TopSpeed]

I would have to agree that the Twin is WAY overkill for your application. Not to mention you will get the annoying clatter when the clutch is disengaged.

Honestly even the 6 puck is not 100% necessary if your going to stay under 400 ft lbs of torque. I would advise the HD street disk (MB7-HDSS)....smooth, consistent, and rated at 508tq.

My last evo had this clutch until I cracked 500 and it worked just fine. Buying a twin is simply a complete waist of money unless you plan major upgrades in the very near future.

TouringBubble is giving very good input here!

Hope this helps.

[Kuruma]

Matt, thanks! That was the info I was looking for. What kind of deal could you get me on a clutch? Hell I will even throw a sponsor sticker on the car if it comes with a good deal, lol! I am having a darn good first season on stock sized street tires! More seat time then R-comps and I will be dominating!

Thanks
Craig b

[evo_xtatic]

Just my opinion, but there is no need for a twin plate clutch at that power level or for the type of racing you plan to do.

If you're not putting down 450+ tq to the wheels and aren't launching constantly, a twin is overkill on grip levels. Also, a twin setup is heavier which means more rotating mass, which means more power loss to the wheels.

For that power level and street/autocross use, a sprung 6-puck clutch is a great choice. The disc (and PP depending on manufacturer) is lighter and the sprung hub keeps it streetable. If you want something more biased for street use, go with a slightly more aggressive sprung full-face disc and a little heavier pressure plate.

I'm actually buying a Spec Stage 3 sprung 6-puck today to put in my own car (Spec is local to me and I can get a great deal).

Can you get more of these at a great deal? I'm interested in one for my X. I've got 350WHP now, but plan on ~400 soon. Should stay around there until I really change things up which is a while away.

Also, let us know if a group buy would help out the numbers as well.

Thanks!

[TouringBubble]

Matt, thanks! That was the info I was looking for. What kind of deal could you get me on a clutch? Hell I will even throw a sponsor sticker on the car if it comes with a good deal, lol! I am having a darn good first season on stock sized street tires! More seat time then R-comps and I will be dominating!

Thanks
Craig b

Sorry, but I can't get you a deal. If you're interested in sponsorship, talk to Spec and see what they are willing to offer. I do not know what their sponsorships entail or what they are looking for currently.

I happen to know a guy that has an in with Spec, and I do lots of work for him. So, he's giving me a deal. I can't pass that on, sorry.

Once you start "dominating," you should head over to B'Ham and run with us ... we've got several Evos that run in STU, BSP and SM. Come see how you stack up ... or show us how we stack up. ;)

[Hikaru]

I know everyone says overkill, overkill and yes for Craig's application RIGHT NOW and Exdey, or any twin is overkill. However the mod bug bites hard sometimes and I am of the opinion that if you are gonna do something do it once and leave yourself room to expand. I had an ACT street clutch on my last evo. It was great. I liked it a lot. But the smoothness and drivability, as well a quality is no where near my Exedy. I've said it before, there is a reason it is the number one replacement for the stock clutch chosen by evo owners. Just like a Hallman Pro is the choice for MBCs and Swift are the go to spring. So either a ton of people know nothing and just like wasting money or there is some validity to the Exedys performance. Again just the way I see it.

[Kuruma]

Good deal buddy I fully understand. Thanks for the insight.

Craig

[TouringBubble]

I know everyone says overkill, overkill and yes for Craig's application RIGHT NOW and Exdey, or any twin is overkill. However the mod bug bites hard sometimes and I am of the opinion that if you are gonna do something do it once and leave yourself room to expand. I had an ACT street clutch on my last evo. It was great. I liked it a lot. But the smoothness and drivability, as well a quality is no where near my Exedy. I've said it before, there is a reason it is the number one replacement for the stock clutch chosen by evo owners. Just like a Hallman Pro is the choice for MBCs and Swift are the go to spring. So either a ton of people know nothing and just like wasting money or there is some validity to the Exedys performance. Again just the way I see it.

Ask Evo owners about plans for their car and most all will say they want a 10 sec street car with 600 hp on an FP Red/Black or similar. How many actually do it? Maybe 15% ... 20%? And how soon?

For those guys, maybe it is worth it. But for most Evo owners, a single clutch that holds 450tq or so is a great choice, and will leave money for other mods in the present.

For me, I don't want 600hp. I don't want a big, laggy turbo. The 6-puck is perfect for me. Others might not feel the same, but that's why I outlined the choices rather than giving a blanket suggestion.

[CH@Dbee]

twin disc for a daily driven 350whp car? OMG you people kill me.

[Kuruma]

Nice! Lag is not your friend on the autox course. I have plenty of power for what I use the car for. PS I hate drag racing so the occational autox launch is all the hardcore abuse the clutch will see.

Thanks Craig

[mike.p]

twin disc for a daily driven 350whp car? OMG you people kill me.
hahahahahaha

[koffebean00]

My car shifts like butter.... and I like butter on my bread! :D

[Hikaru]

twin disc for a daily driven 350whp car? OMG you people kill me.

Whatev. I'm not hear to twist peoples arms. Drive a ACT Street and then come drive my car. That's all I'm saying. Twin or not. I've driven twins, 6 pucks, single organics, I like mine the best; regardless of how many discs it has, what the torque rating is, or what material it is made out of. If I wanna buy a BBK I'm covered. If I wanna buy a red, black, purple, 33R on 93, whatev..... I'm covered.

[shunderwunder]

Exedy Twin HD. Mods close thread ;)

lol at this from a mod. :D

I had the ACT street in my car on the original full bolt on & cams setup (357awhp) & I loved it. when I did the 2.3 build I upgraded the disc to a sprung 6 puck since it was only like $100 and worked with the the ACT pressure plate & flywheel that I already had. I just figured that i may as well since I'd prolly be on the edge of what the ACT street could hold. Drivability was great for me on the street setup & I did no lift shifts often with no lockout issues. Now that I have the 6 puck I do notice a change in engagement that is a little weird but not hard to get used to. Many people say that the 6 puck is noisy but I don't get any chattering from mine & don't mind it at all. As for recomendations I'd say the ACT street is a great clutch for a car that is not going to be heavily modded so if you know for sure that you wont be going for more than 400hp then I'd say it's the best bet & is very reasonably priced. I'm not a big fan of my 6 puck but its fine, works well, & I'm sure it will hold power well. If I had the extra money at the time I would have gone with the Exedy twin instead. So Id go ACT street unless you feel you'll exceed its power level in which case I'd jump to the Exedy twin.

[Hikaru]

^I'm glad someone noticed my mod joke ;)

[TouringBubble]

So Id go ACT street unless you feel you'll exceed its power level in which case I'd jump to the Exedy twin.

Wow ... that's a HUGE jump.

I was speaking with the Spec guys at Barber last weekend and we were discussing the Stage 3 (Sprung 6/3 puck) versus the Stage 3+ they offer (full face). The rep said that the Stage 3 was his favorite clutch in the lineup and he's had it in 4 different cars, but the 3+ is great for a daily driver. It offers slightly higher tq capacity, but slips a lot easier than the "puck" clutch. The downfall is that it's a little heavier. That might be worth consideration if you're not ready to move to a 6-puck yet. I don't know if other manufacturers have a similar offering.

[shunderwunder]

I just think the ACT street clutch is a great clutch for a bolt on Evo & I'm not a fan of the 6 puck so I'd go with the twin for a more modded Evo based solely on others reviews. Obviously money is a factor too which is why I don't have one myself but ideally I'd like to be running an Exedy twin.

[CH@Dbee]

Whatev. I'm not hear to twist peoples arms. Drive a ACT Street and then come drive my car. That's all I'm saying. Twin or not. I've driven twins, 6 pucks, single organics, I like mine the best; regardless of how many discs it has, what the torque rating is, or what material it is made out of. If I wanna buy a BBK I'm covered. If I wanna buy a red, black, purple, 33R on 93, whatev..... I'm covered.

i worked for a large performance clutch company for years. when it comes to clutches i really know my shit....

i understand the way a multiplate drives VS a single and trust me i get it, i still dont think its worth it when its not needed. replacing a clutch in an evo is not a cheap thing and when you have to pull the trans twice as much and spend 3 times the amount of replace or rebuild the clutch things can get expensive.

if you really want the feel and performance of a multiplate and the car only makes 350whp then you need to be looking into a "super single" clutch....its built like a multiplate but only has one disc. most of the time they hold around 350wtq-ish. i would go with that before a twin disc. your still gonna have to pull the tranny to replace the clutch almost twice as much as a conventional clutch set-up but atleast the price for the unit and rebuilds would be cheaper.

[BlewByYouEvoVIII]

i worked for a large performance clutch company for years. when it comes to clutches i really know my shit....

i understand the way a multiplate drives VS a single and trust me i get it, i still dont think its worth it when its not needed. replacing a clutch in an evo is not a cheap thing and when you have to pull the trans twice as much and spend 3 times the amount of replace or rebuild the clutch things can get expensive.

if you really want the feel and performance of a multiplate and the car only makes 350whp then you need to be looking into a "super single" clutch....its built like a multiplate but only has one disc. most of the time they hold around 350wtq-ish. i would go with that before a twin disc. your still gonna have to pull the tranny to replace the clutch almost twice as much as a conventional clutch set-up but atleast the price for the unit and rebuilds would be cheaper.

Chad with that in mind I have driven a Comp twin compared to the Exedy Twin. Man talk about two totally different clutches. The comp felt like it was going to break my leg while the exedy feels like stock. The exedy drives more like stock than any other clutch I have driven to date. I went with the Exedy twin on my MR because the everyday drivability was simply unbeatable.

[Hikaru]

^ I totally agree with you Chad. The only point I was trying to make was to buy a clutch and buy it once. Whatever you decide to do in the future you are covered. We all as gearheads are prone to do crazy things sometimes. Look at me for instance, until 2 weeks ago my car was for sale, now I'm dumping another $1500 into it just for the sake of appearance! Crazy. I'd hate to see someone buy a less aggressive clutch cuz they only have 350hp NOW (hell I'm pretty damn close to that) and then decide they want to run a BBK and run E85 on track days. They'll wish they would've bought that twin. In conclusion, if the clutch is super easy to drive on the street, will hold gobs of torque, and leaves room for expansion, what's wrong with it? I just hate seeing people not leave room and then pay to do the same job twice that's all....

[CH@Dbee]

Chad with that in mind I have driven a Comp twin compared to the Exedy Twin. Man talk about two totally different clutches. The comp felt like it was going to break my leg while the exedy feels like stock. The exedy drives more like stock than any other clutch I have driven to date. I went with the Exedy twin on my MR because the everyday drivability was simply unbeatable.
ive driven both as well.....and......i dont have anything to say about that LOL

exedy drives fawking amazing it really does. shit jerrel had one in his car when he bought it and didnt know it till he replaced the clutch LOL drive around with a twin without knowing it hahahahaaaaa

its not about driveablity of a multiplate VS conventional because there are twins out there that drive better than some conventional style set-up's.


^ I totally agree with you Chad. The only point I was trying to make was to buy a clutch and buy it once. Whatever you decide to do in the future you are covered. We all as gearheads are prone to do crazy things sometimes. Look at me for instance, until 2 weeks ago my car was for sale, now I'm dumping another $1500 into it just for the sake of appearance! Crazy. I'd hate to see someone buy a less aggressive clutch cuz they only have 350hp NOW (hell I'm pretty damn close to that) and then decide they want to run a BBK and run E85 on track days. They'll wish they would've bought that twin. In conclusion, if the clutch is super easy to drive on the street, will hold gobs of torque, and leaves room for expansion, what's wrong with it? I just hate seeing people not leave room and then pay to do the same job twice that's all....
i agree....more clutch is always better than not enough. in the end if somebody dailys the car, they will put alot more miles on it than it being a weekend driver. paying somebody to pull an evo trans and rebuild an exedy twin is not cheap. doing that once a year and you have a sub 450whp car is silly.....i mean if you got it like that go for it....but its not something that necessary.

[TouringBubble]

The only point I was trying to make was to buy a clutch and buy it once. Whatever you decide to do in the future you are covered.

If this was at all true, I would agree ... however, it's not. A clutch is not a one time purchase. I'll bet the rebuild of a Exedy twin is easily the cost of a new single, not even including labor for the install.

If cost was never a factor, sure ... but all the clutch you can. If the Exedy drives like you guys say it does, then there would be no reason to not get it. But, as it sits in my situation, I could likely buy 3 of the clutches I'm looking at for the price of the Exedy, and that's simply ridiculous for something that I don't actually need.

[Hikaru]

Wait, so now it's the rebuild cost? And who is rebuilding clutches once a year??? I've had mine for a year. It's DD for sure, and it doesn't need rebuilding. I think we are off topic here. I was talking about buying a clutch that holds 350 hp. Then a year later someone wants to bump up to 450 hp, finds out they doesn't have enough clutch to hold it, now he's out the money for a new one. Craig, buy whatever clutch u want, you've heard the opinions.

[CH@Dbee]

Wait, so now it's the rebuild cost? And who is rebuilding clutches once a year??? I've had mine for a year. It's DD for sure, and it doesn't need rebuilding. I think we are off topic here. I was talking about buying a clutch that holds 350 hp. Then a year later someone wants to bump up to 450 hp, finds out they doesn't have enough clutch to hold it, now he's out the money for a new one. Craig, buy whatever clutch u want, you've heard the opinions.

you have to look at what your after and what your willing to pay for it. that time frame was just an estimate....it depends on how far he drives the car daily, how he drives it and how often it is tracked.

there is nothing wrong with putting a multiplate in a stock turbo car. its a situation by situation thing. its a FACT a twin is 3x money and has 1/2 the life of a conventional clutch and when it has to be rebuilt its twice the cost of a conventional. if you ok with that go for an exedy twin all day....it is a far superior clutch but each person has to make that decision for themselfs if its worth the $ or not.

[TouringBubble]

It's about a lot of things man, at least in my case, which seems similar to Craig's.

Initial cost ................ ~$650 v ~$1500
TQ capacity ............... ~550 v ~ 800
Cost of replacement ... ~$250 v ~$500

Total cost over 3 years ... ~$900 v $2000 (estimated, with one rebuild/replacement)

Even an FP Red on E85 would BARELY overcome the rated TQ capacity of a sprung 6-puck (at least the one I'm getting), and that's being very generous. Why would I want to pay more for tq capacity I won't use and extra weight I absolutely don't need?

Keeping far below the rated TQ capacity won't make much of a difference in clutch wear ... daily driving it will. And, since I daily drive my car, I'd like to keep my maintenance costs down. Sure, the Exedy twin might be a little better to my left leg in traffic, but it's not worth it to me.

Great clutch? Yes. Worth it for a daily driven Evo up to 500 hp/tq? Absolutely not.

And that is my subjective input.

[Hikaru]

Guys, I thank you both for stating your opionions and debating them in a positive and mature manner. That is EXACTLY what this forum is for! I could debate this point til I'm blue but I'm not paid to do so by a clutch company lol! In the end I hope the OP buys a clutch that has room to grow with his power.

[Kuruma]

I really don't plan on exceeding 400hp anytime soon. Unless I win the lottery, the car is staying where it's at and the only improvement to the speed of the car is my driving skill. Twin seems overkill, I hate pulling these transmissions, so the less often the better. I have been thinking about sending the trans to shep or someone along those lines. Matt what clutch are you getting? Part number? Flywheel combo? Etc..

I have autox events every weekend and this car is my only driver. No track days anytime soon, I am still paying for the car. LOL.

Thanks Craig

[CH@Dbee]

It's about a lot of things man, at least in my case, which seems similar to Craig's.

Initial cost ................ ~$650 v ~$1500
TQ capacity ............... ~550 v ~ 800
Cost of replacement ... ~$250 v ~$500

Total cost over 3 years ... ~$900 v $2000 (estimated, with one rebuild/replacement)

Even an FP Red on E85 would BARELY overcome the rated TQ capacity of a sprung 6-puck (at least the one I'm getting), and that's being very generous. Why would I want to pay more for tq capacity I won't use and extra weight I absolutely don't need?

Keeping far below the rated TQ capacity won't make much of a difference in clutch wear ... daily driving it will. And, since I daily drive my car, I'd like to keep my maintenance costs down. Sure, the Exedy twin might be a little better to my left leg in traffic, but it's not worth it to me.

Great clutch? Yes. Worth it for a daily driven Evo up to 500 hp/tq? Absolutely not.

And that is my subjective input.

Guys, I thank you both for stating your opionions and debating them in a positive and mature manner. That is EXACTLY what this forum is for! I could debate this point til I'm blue but I'm not paid to do so by a clutch company lol! In the end I hope the OP buys a clutch that has room to grow with his power.

perfect examples^ each person has to decide whats worth it to them and their budget. theres no broad yes or no answer for twin on stock/upgraded stock turbo. theres a yes or no answer per person not per set-up.

[mike.p]

i will say i was making 500hp on a 6puck sprung with hd pressure plate with no probs....... then i built the motor and went carbonetics tripple :P hell charles, with the stupid built bby VIII(some might now him) was making super high power like well over 6 on pumpgas using a 6 puck extreme pressure plate...chad can testify that....

[CH@Dbee]

i will say i was making 500hp on a 6puck sprung with hd pressure plate with no probs....... then i built the motor and went carbonetics tripple :P hell charles, with the stupid built bby VIII(some might now him) was making super high power like well over 6 on pumpgas using a 6 puck extreme pressure plate...chad can testify that....

yep....he held a SHIT TON of power on that set-up.

[TouringBubble]

Matt what clutch are you getting? Part number? Flywheel combo? Etc..

I'm getting The Spec Stage 3 6-puck. There is also a 3-puck option, but I think that would be a little much for me. SM803 is the part number shown on the Spec site. See the basic lineup here ... http://www.specclutch.com/products

I'm using a stock flywheel. I'm borrowing one from a friend locally and having it ground before the install, then giving him back mine.

[blkonblk2red]

my old one i had the act street, don't know i liked the stock one over the act wasn't a big fan....this one came with a twin.... and its totally different, totally love it... but if i had to buy it and put it in... i would prob try another 6 puck bc the cost alone... and i have Daily drive-ability issues with mine... which aren't that big of a deal I can still Daily it... but think its totally over kill for what the car is ... and what its going to be...

[ultm8mind]

Exedy Twin HD. Mods close thread ;)

Word, that's what I got!! So it has to be good right? But really, I like it and if you want to add more power later, you have that in already. Do it right the first time or pay later....

[ultm8mind]

yep....he held a SHIT TON of power on that set-up.

SHIT TON is that an actual measurement, LOL. Someone said that to me the other day, I wanted to use it on someone else...

[CH@Dbee]

SHIT TON is that an actual measurement, LOL. Someone said that to me the other day, I wanted to use it on someone else...

hahahhhaaaaa....its the closest we could get to his.....cause he would never tell anyone. we knew he hung with TT Z06 using that ACT 6 puck

[Kuruma]

I DONT CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH POWER MY CAR PUTS DOWN OR WILL EVER PUT DOWN, I JUST CARE HOW FAST I CANT GET AROUND AN AUTOX. AND I AM LOOKING FOR A CLUTCH THAT FITS THAT NEED AND NOT THE NEED TO GO FAST IN A STRAIGHT LINE.

Thanks Craig

[TouringBubble]

^ lol. That's a man on the brink ...

[mike.p]

I DONT CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH POWER MY CAR PUTS DOWN OR WILL EVER PUT DOWN, I JUST CARE HOW FAST I CANT GET AROUND AN AUTOX. AND I AM LOOKING FOR A CLUTCH THAT FITS THAT NEED AND NOT THE NEED TO GO FAST IN A STRAIGHT LINE.

Thanks Craig

WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT US?!?!?!:(:( lololol i kid i kid......what was being said is the 6puck is perfect for what you want BUT if you decide to go power adder crazy the clutch will hold that also.........

[BlewByYouEvoVIII]

I DONT CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH POWER MY CAR PUTS DOWN OR WILL EVER PUT DOWN, I JUST CARE HOW FAST I CANT GET AROUND AN AUTOX. AND I AM LOOKING FOR A CLUTCH THAT FITS THAT NEED AND NOT THE NEED TO GO FAST IN A STRAIGHT LINE.

Thanks Craig

Someone needs a hug...

[mike.p]

if your giving them out ryan i need one:)

[koffebean00]

Someone needs a hug...

Or some J-E-L-L-O! :D

[Kuruma]

Someone needs a hug...

LoL, thanks Ryan. It just got off topic and I was trying to catch everyones attention.

Thanks everyone,

Craig