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robb86
08-16-2009, 04:24 PM
Alrighty, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to suspension... so I need help, haha.

I've been dropped on Eibach springs for almost 9months now.
I had the car aligned right after I installed the springs and my stock Advans lasts till about 15k, I believe only about 6k of those miles were on the Eibach springs.
Didn't notice any irregular wear on them.

Installed some General UHP's right before hitting 16k miles, just hit 19k today.
I noticed some wear on the inner right front tire today.

Like a dumbass I realized I never even checked the spec sheet they gave me after the alignment I had done at Tires Plus.
After an hour of looking through receipts and other bills I finally found it.

Here it is...
http://i89.servimg.com/u/f89/11/39/30/85/alignm10.jpg

My question is do I need a camber plates or something to adjust that the front right and left rear?
I'd like to get this fixed. What do I need to do?

Could there perhaps be an issue with my spring installation? We did it ourselves, late one night accompanied by Mr. Heineken & Sam Adams.

em1toevo
08-17-2009, 12:16 AM
The numbers in your current alignment are off by a good margin. From what I understand, incorrect toe will eat up your tires faster than your camber being off. Did you remember to aim the arrow correctly on both top bolts at the bottom of the front strut assemblies? (See #24 on the following link: http://evomoto.com/tech_info.php?tPath=12&tech_id=22&osCsid=d18244023aab578ebcb2ae9f6a3067e5)

The reason I ask is because I did mine myself, and I followed this link exactly and mine came out more balanced. I got mine aligned after installing my springs last month, and my camber numbers are Left Front -1.3, Right Front -1.0, Left Rear -1.5, Right Rear -1.4 .
My toe numbers are LF .05, RF -.03, LR .06, RR .12.

robb86
08-17-2009, 07:46 AM
Thanks, I'll check on that tonight.

Found this on evom.
Alignment
Stock
The stock alignment is typically messed up when the car is first delivered, just like on the 8 and 9. It might be a good idea to get it checked.
Per the service manual the stock alignment is:
Front:
Toe-in: 0.07* (per side, 0.14 total)
Camber: -1* (per side, non-adjustable per the manual)
Caster: 4* (non-adjustable).

Rear:
Toe in: 0.06* (per side, 0.12 total)
Camber: -1* (per side)

You can get a "free" -1*+ of camber in the front by removing the wheel, removing the top strut bolt, and flipping it such that the white dot of paint on it points away from the strut (this is the same on the 8 and 9). You will need an alignment after you do this since it will make the toe change.

Now I just wonder whats up with my left rear.

TouringBubble
08-17-2009, 12:03 PM
I agree ... the front looks like the bolt may be flipped on the right side. If you flip it back you will have to have that wheel aligned again and the toe will change with the camber.

For the best wear, 0 out the toe on the F and R. Toe kills tires.

You might actually find that if you sit in the car that rear camber will correct itself closer to spec.

bomjoon
08-17-2009, 11:13 PM
toe is whats on your feet.

and camber is what you need to look cool in.